[slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Discord

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[slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Discord

Postby TheLastQuestion » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:12 pm

Byond account and character name: TheLastQuestion | Astrea Velsigat
Discord ID (if applicable): Toast #4599
Banning admin: slingerblade
Ban type (What are you banned from?): EG; Server Ban + Discord Ban
Ban reason given: To quote what I was told. "Cussing out another player due to an IC interaction that you werent even involved in because one of your friends was upset is absolutely unacceptable and against the server's rules"
Ban length: Permanent
Approximate date that the ban was placed (including time zone): Around 9:54 PM CST
Your side of the story: I will fully admit to what I did. I got really angry at this player who had been causing my friend quite a bit of anguish and had, unwisely, sent them a single message cussing them out and yelling at them for it because I was being incredibly overemotional.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I... entirely understand that what I did was wrong, and that I shouldn't have done it. It was something I shouldn't have even done in the first place but I was so angry at the time that I didn't think it through and well... I regret doing it honestly. I won't do anything of this sort ever again. I shouldn't have done it, I regret doing it, and I won't do anything of the sort ever again. It was wrong of me to cuss the player out in the first place, much less over something I had no personal involvement in just because my friend was incredibly upset, and I fully accept that what I did was wrong. It honestly won't happen again.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby DegenerateCain » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:06 am

Hello Toast, it's me, Cain.


I was involved by being the person that you insulted, though I assume you wasn't told the truth which is why you was so angry. I'd love to know what was said to you but that's beside the point.


I just wanted to say that I am in SUPPORT of you and Bug getting unbanned; even though you was both rather rude and unjust. This is only a game, my IC interactions with Orist shouldn't dictate how Bug thinks about me as a human being. Nor should I be called a "
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collossal fucking asshole. You are a horrible, DESPICABLE fucking person.
".


I really want you both back in the server but I do think some time should be taken to reflect... Maybe you could've asked me what happened, may we could've communicated our issues with one-another. Insulting me wasn't the way to go about this.


My DMs are still open to the both of you if you want to calmly discuss anything; I'm really sorry that this happened and I hope that we can move forward together as I do find it rather upsetting that because of one IC altercation I find myself losing two friends. Shit really sucks.


(Another apology to Sling if I wasn't allowed to respond here, but according to Rule 7 in the ban forum rules, I can)
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby Aces » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:22 am

I also want to know what their version of events is.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby TheLastQuestion » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:19 pm

I am fully willing to calmly and rationally discuss my side the situation and what led to my admittedly far too angry outburst over discord, however I lack any means of getting in contact with either of you over discord. Best I can do is messages over the forums as is.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby Aces » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:18 pm

This is a ban appeal so you should explain here.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby TheLastQuestion » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:28 pm

Alright, so, time to explain my side of the situation then. This was not all over one IC interaction, but rather a culmination of things over time. The player of Orist had on more than a few occasions over the span of a few months come to me incredibly depressed over things that Cain had done OOC and IC, viewing what they were doing as an attempt to use their character to carry out an OOC grudge to drive them off the station, to summarize things. Seeing as this was the only viewpoint I was getting, my view of the situation was rather skewed, and gave me quite the negative view of Cain, who from the way they were explaining things really did seem to be bullying and borderline harassing them IC and OOC. Once again, I was only getting one viewpoint here. This last IC event ended up pushing me over the boiling point, and I ended up flipping out. I had come on to observe the round for no other reason than boredom and came on to see what seemed like him and the HoS at the time ganging up on Orist and trying to get them banned for no reason over a situation they were trying to explain. Given what I had been hearing from their player, and the events before this situation, it more than slightly seemed like this was being done out of said OOC grudge that Orist's player thinks Cain has towards them. I ended up getting super overemotional and blowing up at Cain over it since Orist's player was super depressed over all of this once again, and I was incredibly angry about the fact that Cain kept making them feel like this, and was now, from what the HoS made it seem like, actively trying to get them banned simply because they wouldn't listen. Now that I've at least conversed with Cain over discord I do understand that that wasn't the intention, though that was how Orist's player, and by proxy me, viewed the situation. I'm not saying that I was justified in saying what I said. I was tired, incredibly angry, and did something hastily that I regretted doing immediately. I've apologized profusely to Cain already and really do feel bad about what I said. That's the (heavily summarized) version of events from my side. I really am sorry, and this sort of thing won't happen again.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby Slingblade » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:55 pm

Frankly all I see here is just the boiling over of emotions. I understand that you got upset and all that, but this is just a game. What really pushed it over the limit, as expressed with the ban, was you feeling it necessary to send an awful post to Cain over discord. I hope that you do truly accept that this sort of thing is unacceptable and must not happen again. I will lift this ban on Monday the 13th of January.

Do ensure to learn from this. There is nothing I hate more personally than the breaking of the IC/OOC barrier and harassment over OOC means.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby Scree » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:53 pm

And this is why we have the rule about not venting about other players to each other instead of talking to admins about your problems, because sometimes those players do things like this.
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Re: [slingerblade] TheLastQuestion - OOC Conflicts over Disc

Postby Slingblade » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:47 am

Ban lifted
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