TheMagicalFarmWizard

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TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby FarmWizard » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:21 am

Byond account and character name: TheMagicalFarmWizard - Lilina Hearthfire and Fia Nystle
Banning admin: Demicusmaximus
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server
Ban reason: Meta-grudge against Phi, Ban-baiting, being Toxic to other players, and Shittalking deadchat/discord.
Ban length: Permanent
Approximate time ban was placed (including time zone): 2:45AM EST
Your side of the story:
RE: Meta-grudge against Phi.
I was able to work as Fia Nystle as my security goblin/dragon with Phi on numerous shifts without incident and was even amicable to him during them until he took it upon himself to get offended by my character telling them to not use lethals when firing in the direction of their teammates. Especially when they hit their teammate twice whilst they where slapping cuffs on the suspect. Any normal person would've admitted that they made a mistake (Like I did when I farced up a surgery as Lilina and accidentally killed someone) or wouldn't respond. Phi on the otherhand took to threatening my character with arrest, and when I refused due to falsified charges he fired his taser at me. To which I responded with disabler fire back. He then lasered me to death.

As for Lilina. I admit I wasn't doing so hot in the mental faculties then. I'd just gotten off a scene and did something stupid and threw a tantrum for doing this. Though these meta-grudge claims are unsubstantiated as Phi took it upon himself to toss a flashbang into my cell and laugh about it over comms. Something that I'm sure would allow anyone reasonably disgruntled to form a grudge against him. This was before the incident with Phi lasering Fia down however so I still assumed that Phi wasn't always acting in such a manner.

RE: Ban Baiting?
I don't quite understand what this means. I wasn't attempting to get a ban and had just finished a scene when I was banned. So as you can see I'm not some griffon that came from boatbomber's video to stir trouble and mess around. If you mean collecting and screencapping Phi's negative behavior, multiple people told me to do so. That way he couldn't claim that I was the only one being negative, and also if I present evidence that an admin thinks is worthy of a ban I don't quite see how that is ban baiting so much as showing them repeated negative and un-head-like behaviors that'd get most others jobbanned at the very least.

RE: Being Toxic
I admit I get upset easily when it comes to others abusing their power. Unless I wanted to go full on malicious compliance (And even then I doubt I would've avoided being arrested and agitated) the only way I really get that out of my system is being grumpy, and when I unleash my grumpiness onto other servers so that I'm not flooding the discord channel suddenly I'm accused of having meta-servers open and doing all sorts of shady junk when I'm just griping to people I know. A discord ban was administered for me to cool off, so I don't know why it had to be followed up with a server ban. Either way I fully well admit to complaining in discord and deadchat when I should've just walked away. That's crummy behavior and honestly I need to find better things to do with my time than gripe about an unfair security man in a 2d spessmans game.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
Because it's a massive escalation to feuding with a single player to suddenly being removed from the server as a whole. Especially when I had just finished a scene before the ban was enacted. I'm not here to cause drama or trouble and I'll avoid interacting with Phi in the future if he aims to do the same. I can understand some people just don't get along and me and Phi are two of those people. If Phi is willing to try and avoid me and me him, and you're willing to let me try and act better in the future all I can really promise is I'll try.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby nerdass » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:32 am

Line 17997: [2018-06-29T00:21:01]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,80,7): Nah.
Line 18002: [2018-06-29T00:21:09]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,80,7): I'm watching and screencapping though.
Line 18030: [2018-06-29T00:21:35]DEADCHAT: Wumbusprime1/(Roes Eko) (55,65,5): where da lewds at
Line 18031: [2018-06-29T00:21:35]DEADCHAT: StarCrusader/(Aneksi Ishtar) (40,79,7): Why screencapping though?
Line 18050: [2018-06-29T00:21:54]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,80,7): So I can shit all over Phi when the day comes to try and get him ding donged.
Line 18053: [2018-06-29T00:21:58]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,80,7): Also because this shit is hilarious.


so tell me again how you didn't straight up admit that you were going to intentionally try to get another player banned.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby nerdass » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:34 am

Oh right, this bit's pretty good too.



Line 18294: [2018-06-29T00:25:27]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,78,7): Should I come back as off-duty officer?
Line 18299: [2018-06-29T00:25:30]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,79,7): Just for memes?
Line 18308: [2018-06-29T00:25:38]DEADCHAT: StarCrusader/(Aneksi Ishtar) (40,79,7): No.
Line 18309: [2018-06-29T00:25:38]DEADCHAT: Garoon/(Myrddin Cruaich) (65,75,5): WELL
Line 18316: [2018-06-29T00:25:42]DEADCHAT: Garoon/(Myrddin Cruaich) (65,75,4): TESLOOSE
Line 18335: [2018-06-29T00:25:59]DEADCHAT: StarCrusader/(Aneksi Ishtar) (40,79,7): Doing stuff "just for memes" is... not exactly a good idea I would say
Line 18358: [2018-06-29T00:26:13]DEADCHAT: Durath/(Worrah Woofarragrr) (65,50,7): I think that would be a violation of something
Line 18369: [2018-06-29T00:26:23]DEADCHAT: Durath/(Worrah Woofarragrr) (65,50,7): possibly common sense
Line 18384: [2018-06-29T00:26:30]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,79,7): Yeah but it'd be so good though.
Line 18389: [2018-06-29T00:26:34]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,79,7): To just come back
Line 18390: [2018-06-29T00:26:34]DEADCHAT: Heroman3003/(Lauren Zackson) (38,80,7): doing stuff just for memes is worst thing to do in serious rp environment
Line 18397: [2018-06-29T00:26:39]DEADCHAT: Wumbusprime1/(Roes Eko) (63,71,5): nothing can contain teslacules
Line 18408: [2018-06-29T00:26:44]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,79,7): And rub my dick on Phi's face about how much of a shitter he is.
Line 18412: [2018-06-29T00:26:48]DEADCHAT: StarCrusader/(Aneksi Ishtar) (40,79,7): Shows you have little respect for the RP environment
Line 18413: [2018-06-29T00:26:49]DEADCHAT: KasparoVv/(Shark Week) (39,79,7): just for the keks
Line 18420: [2018-06-29T00:26:57]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (39,79,7): What RP environment?
Line 18429: [2018-06-29T00:27:01]DEADCHAT: KasparoVv/(Shark Week) (39,79,7): :Thonkong:
Line 18445: [2018-06-29T00:27:11]DEADCHAT: KasparoVv/(Shark Week) (39,79,7): TGs obv
Line 18459: [2018-06-29T00:27:23]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (44,79,7): The one where a GOVERNMENT OFFICAL
Line 18460: [2018-06-29T00:27:23]DEADCHAT: Durath/(Worrah Woofarragrr) (65,50,7): how long does it take the juveniles to go to their next stage?
Line 18461: [2018-06-29T00:27:29]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (44,79,7): Cannot take criticism of ANY KIND
Line 18465: [2018-06-29T00:27:33]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (44,79,7): Even from their own subordinates?
Line 18475: [2018-06-29T00:27:43]DEADCHAT: KasparoVv/(Shark Week) (57,67,7): The same amount of time it takes the jester to exit stage right
Line 18479: [2018-06-29T00:27:50]DEADCHAT: Heroman3003/(Lauren Zackson) (44,80,7): there is no stage psat juveniles
Line 18485: [2018-06-29T00:27:53]DEADCHAT: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Fia Nystle) (44,78,7): And can murder people wantonly without consequence aside from sitting in a room stoking his willie for a few minutes.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby arokha » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:35 am

FarmWizard wrote:Your side of the story:
RE: Meta-grudge against Phi.


[2018-06-20T19:02:54]ADMINPM: TheMagicalFarmWizard/(Lilina Hearthfire)->PontifexMinimus/(Sam Michels): Fine, but IC grudge against security pending all future rounds.

What about the time you said you were going to grudge against security literally forever?
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby FarmWizard » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:39 am

Note the part where I said ICly, and also the part where Fia was able to work with him after that incident just fine until he decided to throw a tantrum and arrest an officer for telling him to have more discretion with lethals when firing towards his teammates.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby FarmWizard » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:40 am

Especially when you outnumber the perpetrator four to one and have them surrounded on all sides I might add.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby nerdass » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:46 am

I don't really see how what he did is relevant to how you acted, and how you promised to act.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby Mewchild » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:03 am

Hey! Phi here. I want to give a bit of context for the events leading up to your death.
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It was at this point that you ran out of security. I followed, and shot you a few times with a taser. When it ran dry, you began shooting with the hunter gun. I wasn't aware that it was a hunter, as all I saw was a blue laser. I returned fire with lethals, as I was unaware of what you were shooting. You were shot four times.
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Even while downed, having taken severe laser fire, you continued to resist. Once we reached medical bay, as the first thing I did was call for help:
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You were intially being arrested for refusing to follow an order, the order being to silence yourself with the harassment about a friendly fire incident. You refused to comply with the arrest, and began shooting me when I tried to subdue you. This led you to you being lethally shot and killed. shortly after you were revived, with a defib, you tossed a "Screw This" and left the round with all your gear. Around 3-4 minutes after this, deadchat was muted, after what kitty posted was said, presumably. I'm stepping away from this appeal for now, simply trying to clarify the actions leading to the arrest.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby Mewchild » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:03 am

I'm happy to send the log file to the admins, as a note, as it's filtered from my Point of View.
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Re: TheMagicalFarmWizard

Postby nerdass » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:08 am

failure to comply with an order is valid.

if a doctor doesn't listen to the cmo, then the cmo can dunk their ass out of the department
if a cargo tech doesn't listen to the qm, qm can dunk their ass out of the department
if a scientist doesn't listen to the rd, rd can dunk their ass out of the department

security has to listen to their department head because it's their job, if you don't like what your boss is saying, take it up with IAA, but you don't get to fucking pull a sovereign citizen shitfit, run away, and then get involved with a shootout over not doing your bloody job and not listening to your boss.

everything about this, had you completely in the wrong, farm.

NO SUPPORT.
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