I'd like to not be taken out of context when talking about people.
As a witness to the events, and being personally referenced in a particular link, I feel pretty compelled to post.
First off, I'd like to clarify that Shiak is an idiot, but he's my friend. He does stupid things, and I tell him he probably shouldn't. Like murdering someone and wearing their clothes, that was pretty stupid.
Sure, Shiak has an erratic character. So do I. So do a lot of people, really. (Such as Johnny "Glitch", who basically runs around half the rounds he's in beating Security to the ground.) His character could use improvement, perhaps less frequency in some of his actions, but he seems to fit in pretty well with the amount of people doing such actions that haven't been punished for it.
Also, what happened during that round is Shiak was interrupted by Koshka whilst trying to leave, and didn't wish to get caught (which matches up with his character), so he batonned him and ran off. Pretty sure Shiak was supposed to be gone before Koshka arrived, but he was unable to get into the teleporter.
Personally, I don't think Shiak is worthy of a ban..? Just a really heavy warning, one-day-ban,
temporary character-ban at risk of actual ban, or something a bit less serious.
Mostly because I've done similar things to him, as have others, and I've mostly just gotten and "Okay seems legit", and the others weren't apparently doing anything 'bannable', despite it being repeated over multiple rounds and being rather obstructive of roleplay.
ICly?
Shiak murders people whom consent to it, whom he then would resleeve, which would then vouch for him, which would make it a "legal vore". So, he technically cant get charged with murder so long as the person was resleeved, and admits their consent, it tends to fall under such lines.
Shiak has broken the SOP a few times. But I'm pretty sure I have too, and not been punished for it. Honestly, I've seen a lot of people break SOP. I'm not sure why Shiak is being singled out for that one, I've walked around with an entire Sec outfit before that I found in maintenance and nobody said anything to me about it.
OOCly?
I think it's just the frequency of how often he does this that irritates you. I've seen him do a lot of things and nobody's really complained or asked him to move into a private area or do it privately. I basically stalk him in Observe mode when I'm not in-round, I've only once seen someone even suggest he go somewhere private, and it was when they walked in on him AFTER he had finished.
I especially don't think a weeklong ban is in order, especially since you can just warn him to stop acting like that, or to stop playing that character. Especially the latter if you've warned him multiple times.
I honestly see more complaints about my friends who aren't banned than about Shiak. Like the one that was hoarding all of the resources from science over an insult.
Followup.
OOCly,I think it's abundantly clear that you like the attention of taunting security and players with your actions. I have seen this before with the holoclothing and how you try to pressure other security with the officers you have befriended. I don't think this is good character behaviour and I encourage you to change that.
Because you're getting attention now. Mine.
This is not an OOC action, he is doing this in character, and I haven't seen him use Washa nor Garf to pressure other security members. I've seen him tease other security members. If this is a thing, then it's Security's job to fire those security members, not your job to ban Shiak for using science materials (holocloth) and pressuring security ICly.
If you encourage him to change that, then you should not ban him. You should stop him from using this character until it has been improved, or warn him that if this character does not change from this kind of behavior, then he will have to play another one or face an actual punishment, such as a ban.
Frankly I'm getting sick of seeing this character's name next to yet another argument on the radio that you've turned into the entire station's problem.
My character has been in trouble waay more than his. I tried to murder someone. Illegally! In plain sight of everyone. Shiak has more reason to anything he does than my character, which I play with less frequency now mind you, and most the times he does get in trouble with security it's because he roleplays in public spots. Which, again, I've still yet to see him get asked to politely move to a private area.
One of the first things you did upon arriving here was kick off a massive shitstorm involving butchering a dude, then barging into the kitchen (with the fucking HoS of all people who should know better) and browbeating a guest pass out of the chef, before leaving a bloody mess around full of limbs, and leaving food made of that person's meat out on the counter for the rest of the crew, who - if they had missed any radio messages or simply arrived after you announced it - would effectively be forced to participate in a scene. The prey player in question was given a long hard talk about this behaviour when they tried to make the kinkshame argument, so I'm going to use big letters.
First.. Is this even related to his ban..? If it is, then you're not banning him for anything he did that round, he's banned because you don't like what he does. If it isn't then why is this posted here? Second, yes. I too think that when I first arrived here, I caused a bunch of shitstorms too.
Cant say much about the rest of this, since I don't think I was here for this.
But, you can't say that it's forcing someone to 'participate in a scene' if they eat that food, for one: Vore, short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten
alive or eating
another creature alive. After they've been processed and cooked, it's like eating a hamburger. Also, I vaguely imagine that others would warn people about the burgers before they ate them, and I don't think anyone is going to make a scene about eating food, unless they're me.
It is not permitted to force people to participate in your kink against their wishes.
And yes, if someone had come along on their pure soft vore prey character, eaten one of those burgers without knowing about it, then later found out that they had unwittingly been tricked into effectively participating in a hard vore scene as the fucking predator, this would be considered a massive breach of preferences.
With this, you're going to have to say 'Omitting rape fetishists, force fetishists, and unwilling fetishists'. As, they legitimately want to participate in something against their wishes.
And no, it is not a 'breach of preference' to eat a burger made of someone unless they're alive, it is however forcing someone to commit a crime, and a pretty heavy jail sentence in real life, and would technically fall under negligence for this game's purposes.
And every interaction I've seen since has been a torrent of lawyering as to why such-and-such a specific case shouldn't apply to you. Both in and out of character, everything's lawyering. Hell, I remember the first IC interaction was when you were reading people's medical details over comms, and when told that was a breach of SOP, you kept on arguing and lawyering, as though it's not possible that you might not actually be correct.
Well. . I guess you've never seen those precious many times he spends talking to his friends then? You must only focus on the few times he's murdering someone and getting in trouble for it, which would be kinkshaming, I think.
Or perhaps you're just trying to find a reason to ban him.I'm around him a lot, and I've seen him around people a lot. Most of his roleplaying is a mix of being a bit of a weirdo to being a bit too overzealous of a lawbreaker. And he still hasn't been arrested for it. Just complaints filed, I guess? I've never seen anyone complain too much about him though. I only see complaints the few times he murders people, and that's consensual, and doesn't happen too often.
Oh, also. "Lawyering" is a good thing. It means he knows his rights. You cant be pissy with someone for trying to wiggle their way out of something.
You're also one of an uptick in characters I've seen lately that dredge out the "it's my character" line and proceed to turn every IC interaction into a screaming edgy argument that makes people not stand to be around you. We get them from time to time. You might argue that you're not technically breaking any rules, but just because there's no specific rule about playing a tuba in the goddamn library wouldn't make it any less disruptive to the people who are in the library to read in peace.
You do realize that Shiak has like.. a good four to six people around him daily, yes? If he was genuinely that disruptive, and nobody wanted to be around him, then that would not be the case. "It's my character", mind you, is the only excuse in roleplay. You cannot logically give an excuse for your character doing something without saying "It's my character" and "[insert reason character would do this]".
You'll find that the rule
"A person shall not make noise, cause a disturbance, make or take cell phone calls, hold public meetings or demonstrations, within the library, or behave in such a manner that would interfere with or impact negatively on study and research activities of library users."
Should cover that part about the tuba.