[Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

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[Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby Sevirous » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:19 pm

Byond account and character name: Sevirous (Previously, Yuliy)/Banned while playing "Marshall Easter"
Discord ID (if applicable): Pantherache
Banning admin: Skree
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Command staff
Ban reason given: Self-Antag, abuse of power during command
Ban length: Indefinite
Approximate date that the ban was placed (including time zone): Somewhere at 2018
Your side of the story: This will be going all the way to the rabbit hole where multiple dozens of administrator, head-staff and moderators if I unveil the entire story, so I'll limit down to what happened on the round.
I was a site manager. Casually minding my own business, while scanning through security cam to see whom I could bug with. Then, something caught my eye.
Multi-dozens of boxes, more than ten, scattered off all over the cargo place, while the items near on the cargo shuttle, syndicate items. Checking on my PDA to see the crew manifest, only one cargo technician.
Oh, boy, I thought. Someone's either begging a scene, simply curious or really dangerous.
There was no security, nor anyone else around, so I headed up to the cargo department, thinking it's the first - asking for a scene. And there it is, a cargo technician, still fiddling about in the cargo shuttle.
Upon approaching, I begin a scene. No weapon in my hands, no armor on my body, nothing. Yeah, there's holster and an E-gun, though felt that's not necessary.
Had few 'friendly' and 'curious' chat, and got up to the point getting'em in my hands. I LOOCly asked, first, "Do you want a scene?" They say "nuh-uh." Sure, then we go to in 'mannered' way.
I talked them out to drop the bag and stuffs, saying it's necessary step I have to put as facility director. But, guess what.
Instant-stun, instant action, no RPing out, and bolted off, duffel bag full of syndicate gear.
I immediately ran down to the bridge, raise to code blue, announce to crews armed personnel is on the station. And just in time, one security member came on board. Told'em to arm, while OOCly, I ahelped their self-antag act. (Yes, that was a thing in the far, far past)
Ponti-whatever-admin (who's close to Skree) took the ticket, saying they'll resolve it. 5 or 10 minutes of awkward silence they left, then suddenly coming back, they say, "Hey, another admin wants to speak." (Didn't said "They - Ponti - will pass the ticket with legitment reason," just "said.")
And Skree, all pissed up, begin to yell out, how dare I break the peace laid on the station. I tried to explain the situation and what I saw, but no, they just slap the ban on me, then threatens me that I will perma-ban if I don't walk myself out to the cryo and disconnect from the game.
Upon obliging and ghosting, I can't help but wonder, what the heck just happened and why the hell he was pissed mad. It took merely 10 seconds to find Skree in character list because I was about to check where this cargo tech first.
In their dorm, with another character, ERPing.
That's all what happened in that round.

Why you think you should be unbanned:I am more than NOT going to ask to delve into this long past history, but even wanting NOT to if any even wish to see what the entire story is, because how messed up the whole story is and how long this past has gone, more than half a decade. But just here, laying my reason to be unbanned as, well. Time passed, and even mentally stubborn bastard like I am get to grow mentally, by force or by will. After being banned and that entire drama away, I settled in for a while on different server, gone more stern with the rules which is familiar to this server (That-another-vore-themed-server,) and managed to go well in peace for, well, a year?
Perma banned from there, yes, but that's something event that is related to personal mental health issue at the time moment and is a singular event, than server-direct issue and a matter that was built for long time within the server. I am more than willing to tell via Discord what it is, but can't write on this place due to personal mental health related matter. Waiting for someone to come by and ask. No, I'm not returning to the game's server discord due to multiple reasons - along with that health-matter issue, so friend-request is needed.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby PontifexMinimus » Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:31 am

This happened 2020, according to our logs. Also the banning admin in this case isn't Scree, it's me, PontifexMinimus. I asked Scree to take over your side of the admin-pms because I got busy talking to the other side and gathering logs and information (such as prior ghost locations, etc.)

Specifically you ghosted and then looked in as Site Manager to bust the ass of a cargo tech over it, which is metagaming at its best.

In any case, I personally do not think you have changed all that much when I read this appeal and so I fear I rather not see you in command positions again.

You're a decent-ish guy when you're not command, so for your peace and that of the community's, I think it's best if it keep like this. What other server were you playing at? They might vouch for you, but as it stands, I am inclined to deny this.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby Sevirous » Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:38 am

PontifexMinimus wrote:This happened 2020, according to our logs. Also the banning admin in this case isn't Scree, it's me, PontifexMinimus. I asked Scree to take over your side of the admin-pms because I got busy talking to the other side and gathering logs and information (such as prior ghost locations, etc.)

Specifically you ghosted and then looked in as Site Manager to bust the ass of a cargo tech over it, which is metagaming at its best.

In any case, I personally do not think you have changed all that much when I read this appeal and so I fear I rather not see you in command positions again.

You're a decent-ish guy when you're not command, so for your peace and that of the community's, I think it's best if it keep like this. What other server were you playing at? They might vouch for you, but as it stands, I am inclined to deny this.


Right. Sigh. Then I should perhaps mention about you, I have honestly negative thoughts against you as an administer after meeting so many previous users/victims in the game being banned out of your smite, seeking the tiniest hole and mistake someone you don't like, along side with multiple victims telling that they've been banned for talking negative things outside of the game/vorestation discord server, spying of their mundane activities, back when 'Insult against server is not allowed' rule was in the game rules. They at least try talking in somewhere private, yet you've been there, spying. Not to mention Skree's also have been always smiteful towards me along side with few others whoever has been bothered during Skree's scene going about, while you continue on the vouch on Skree's side no matter what. Then, there's this 'one' event.
That all that events aside, why have you, get to contact Skree when you think it was obvious? To add more spice on boot kicking to the back? Gathering such logs aren't that lengthy as well, as I recall, topping only 2 minutes. I honestly do not think you are in a right position to say something with all that records.

But, don't answer. I'm tired of you and you gave so much traumas not just me through years, but multi dozens of other peoples and I am not wanting to get another band-aid to put on top. However, I would like to request higher up position. Glad you're no longer headminister. Don't take this as I'm not respecting other admin and by person. Just you.
Vouch, there's Chompers. Maybe Beestation. The plays were 4 years ago, however, and I did got rather forgetful if it's still valid when the past of the plays were clean for long time.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby Sevirous » Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:49 am

Yes, I'm sorry. I have to grovel, kneel, bend my back, put my hands to the knees, look down and say sorry.
But with so many traumas I got to get through, with so many traumas Poni's act have made, to Ponti? I cannot. Sorry I shown these shouting towards face-up.
Though, I have no malice intents on new admin team right now, nor do I to the any players that are currently active on the server besides them.
Nor there are reasons to, now that related personnel to the past traumas are no longer in action. I'm not sure 'user' sides vouch, the peoples who plays, could show some positive votes upon the Role playing side.
Also to mention - Which while Ponti does NOT thank you very much - The whole event above has not intended for smiting the said cargo technician, if you read the events.
RP attempt was there. I tie my whole hands and limit what I could do upon interacting with this mischievous, hazardous personnel (If I were to be an a-hole, I would've go gun-down or put'em straight to perma brig or worse) when the person's literally armed to teeth. I made the ahelp as soon as possible as well. I tried what I could do as the best move as a player, yet to get applied with ban. With the 'wrongful reason' where Ponti's pointing their bloody finger out, 'Nuh uh, that's metagame still.' While ban I got was self-antag, upon Skree's statement.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby PontifexMinimus » Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:12 am

Sure, I'll let another admin handle this then.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby RomanaTColgate » Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:54 am

Hello, I'll be taking over the appeal. Going to ask Chomp and do a bit of digging before getting back to you proper, but if there's anything else you'd like to add please do so.
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Re: [Skree] Sevirous - Self-Antag, abuse of power

Postby RomanaTColgate » Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:26 am

So, Chomp did not have any desire to vouch for you, very much the opposite, but beyond that your conduct in this appeal is troubling. I understand if you didn't want Ponti to handle your appeal, but the way you went about communicating this was rough to say the least. You come off as hostile and flippant, I understand you feel scorned by this but showing that level of bitterness in an appeal doesn't endear us to it. And it especially doesn't speak well to your ability to play, well, command, given that communication is a vital part of playing that without being a problem. The appeal just reads as you being angry. As far as I can tell we haven't had any real issues with you playing here outside of that, you play maint pred a lot and you don't cause issues there, but we worry that giving you a position of authority over others would lead to less than great outcomes for everyone involved. I don't have anyone vouching for your ability to handle that position and nothing here tells me lifting this would be a good idea. We'll have to see some evidence that it's a good idea or get a strong vouch to consider lifting it, for now I'm going to deny this.
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