Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.) (CLOSED)

Screw up game balance and fix bugs by creating more bugs. Now you too can join the discussion. This is where the magic happens. Sometimes actual magic.

Would you like this added in to the server?

Yes
6
46%
No
6
46%
Don't care
1
8%
 
Total votes : 13

Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.) (CLOSED)

Postby cameron653 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:24 pm

CLOSED



Addition: Remains (Femjuice/Semen)

Sprites: (Femjuice: http://puu.sh/nnCNZ/d12c4a02a5.png) (Semen: http://puu.sh/nnCPT/63d2a8caf0.png)

Reason for addition: Rixunie on Github asked if puddles could be added if someone was CV/UB'd. I made a quick addition, adding in the sprites and all the essential code for it.

PR link: https://github.com/SpadesNeil/VOREstation/pull/413

Features

Requires you to digest one person to be able to release femjuice/cum. This is to prevent people from spamming semen/femjuice puddles all over.

Dissipates after two minutes. This is to prevent people that don't wish to see it from walking into a place after a scene is finished and seeing a puddle lying on the floor.

Cleanable
. A quick spray of space cleaner or a quick scrub with soap and it'll be gone.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby Wickedtemp » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:29 pm

What if the command was available to people without having to digest someone, but have it be on a... ten - fifteen minute timer to prevent spam?
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby cameron653 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:31 pm

Wickedtemp wrote:What if the command was available to people without having to digest someone, but have it be on a... ten - fifteen minute timer to prevent spam?

That could be addable under the "Resize" tab, and just spawn a puddle of femjuice/semen, but that might come later. For now, the main goal is actually getting it added before adding more features to it.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby Vorrarkul » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:01 pm

While I personally have no issue with it, there are other people that do and there are many many reasons why digestion remains are not a feature. So I advise explaining how this won't violate prefs when they come across these remains.

EDIT: I didn't see the 2-minute dissipation, my bad.

EDIT 2 (for actual constructive content): There's still the (albeit very small) window of someone coming across it within those two minutes. Perhaps if there is a way to hide the sprite unless the person has a pref verb enabled?
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby Wickedtemp » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:36 pm

Vorrarkul wrote:While I personally have no issue with it, there are other people that do and there are many many reasons why digestion remains are not a feature. So I advise explaining how this won't violate prefs when they come across these remains.

EDIT: I didn't see the 2-minute dissipation, my bad.

EDIT 2 (for actual constructive content): There's still the (albeit very small) window of someone coming across it within those two minutes. Perhaps if there is a way to hide the sprite unless the person has a pref verb enabled?



Honestly, I don't even see an issue there. If someone doesn't like seeing a white stain on the floor, they can ignore it. It's going to be there for only 120 seconds, if it isn't cleaned up before then. Now, if someone is following another player and intentionally being annoying with this mechanic, then sure, that's a problem. But again... it's for literally two minutes.

Maybe this isn't a well-liked opinion, but if someone is so damaged by seeing a white, pixelated stain on a floor in a 2D video game (for less than two minutes) that they can no longer function normally... then maybe they shouldn't be playing an 18+ Vore-themed High-ERP game. Seriously, it isn't a big deal. It's for less than two minutes. They'll see it for less than two minutes.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby Dhaeleena » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:40 pm

Look, im into all kinds of kinky shit, like really into a lot of things. But i would really prefer if i dont see this added. Im not even sure if Github even allows sexual fluids to be honest. But i really wouldn't like to just go around and see white stains all over the place, even if its for a short amount of time i wouldn't really like this.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby cameron653 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:52 pm

Dhaeleena wrote:Look, im into all kinds of kinky shit, like really into a lot of things. But i would really prefer if i dont see this added. Im not even sure if Github even allows sexual fluids to be honest. But i really wouldn't like to just go around and see white stains all over the place, even if its for a short amount of time i wouldn't really like this.


First, I see nothing explicity stating sexual fluids in the Github ToS https://help.github.com/articles/github ... f-service/
"We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and Accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, pornographic, obscene or otherwise objectionable or violates any party's intellectual property..." It states pornographic,obscene or otherwise objectionable, but a sprite with a word attached to it won't cause the account to be shut down, at all. They're looking for games that have explicit porn scenes. And semen/femjuices aren't obscene in and of itself. It's simply a bodily fluid. Nothing more, nothing less. CV/UB in of itself is more pornographic than two sexual fluids. If the github were to be shut down, it'd be shut down for the fact of UB/CV existing in the code, not for sexual juices. As the code currently stands, they could just decide to boot Virgo off of github at any time for having CV/UB, as it can be considered "Pornographic" or "Obscene"

Secondly There really wouldn't be stains all over the place, as people won't be able to cv/ub someone, digest, release, and then CV/UB someone again within the span of two minutes. This basically makes it so it'd take 5 minutes or so for someone to digest, release, then it dissapates after 2 minutes, then another 3 minutes of downtime for them to digest. And that's assuming they have a constant supply of people to CV/UB.

Vorrarkul wrote: EDIT 2 (for actual constructive content): There's still the (albeit very small) window of someone coming across it within those two minutes. Perhaps if there is a way to hide the sprite unless the person has a pref verb enabled?


I don't think there's any way to do this in the BYOND code. Even if there is, this is way out of my league. It dissapates fast enough that it shouldn't be a problem. I could perhaps change it (and the normal green dissipation) to one minute to make the chance of someone unwillingly stumble in on it even lower.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby orbisa » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:00 pm

Cameron, there is a way, using a similar code to that of medhud, sechud, ghost sight, etc...

That said, I see no problem with this commit, save that the admin team have to go and say they are against or not for it. And when all is said and done, those 2 minutes you placed make the code mostly for the people that are in the scene, if you are seeing that cum, is becouse you were opening doors where you shouldn't...
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby cameron653 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:02 pm

orbisa wrote:Cameron, there is a way, using a similar code to that of medhud, sechud, ghost sight, etc...

That said, I see no problem with this commit, save that the admin team have to go and say they are against or not for it. And when all is said and done, those 2 minutes you placed make the code mostly for the people that are in the scene, if you are seeing that cum, is becouse you were opening doors where you shouldn't...


Yep. I made it two minutes as I personally believe that should be enough time for people to get their scene done, get back dressed, unbolt/unlock/open the doors up, walk out, and have enough time inbetween that it shouldn't be a problem when the next person walks in.

and totally not because the goo glow was already set to 2 minutes by default. nope. not at all.
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Re: Digestion remains. (Femjuice/Semen.)

Postby Aces » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:18 pm

I vote no due to a potentially slippery slope problem. Unless support is overwhelming, we're not adding this, because even if we did, then people would want scat added next.

I'm only adding it if we get a 5:1 ratio of votes in favor, because otherwise that's a bigger chunk of players lost than I am willing to sustain.
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