Re: Polaris Map
Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:32 am
I'll explain the problem with your logic when I get home and can scribble on a piece of paper~
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Nightwing wrote:I'll explain the problem with your logic when I get home and can scribble on a piece of paper~
arokha wrote:No, the weight of an object is the RESULT of gravity. The mass of an object generates gravity.
arokha wrote:... what thrust do you think is keeping the moon in orbit?
Nightwing wrote:An asteroid is far more dense than a space station, for instance. Just placing it in the same location as the current station is a great way to destroy all life on the planet below as the asteroid hurtles down and collides with it! The increased mass requires the asteroid be placed in a much more distant orbit, and even then needs to be accelerated around the planet to even begin orbitting in the first place.
Zeke Sturm wrote:Also, this
The problem with that becomes it won't just remain there, since gravity is affected by the weight of an object, which would certainly change if an object became much bigger, and also a rock. Not saying it'd be impossible to maintain an orbit, but it'd certainly be unnecessarily fucking difficult, given how much power would have to go into just jetting it away from the planet near-constantly.
I'll let Night post the relevant equations, he knows this stuff better than me
Zeke Sturm wrote:It doesn't. But the moon isn't in a constant orbit. It's just in a very distant one that was started optimally so the decay is insignificant for the moment.
Aces wrote:Now back on topic. I don't like the Café and Bar being separated. I much prefer they be one in the same. The remaining room can be stripped out to solve an issue Nightwing previously brought up of there being no construction sites to work with. In fact, there's a lot of open space where I can toss in blank empty rooms.
If the current game doesn't have some mechanics for building tiles on asteroid tiles, I'll add one.
Also, I think the whole elevator thing is stupid but that's just me. I liked the shuttles more.
Zeke Sturm wrote:It doesn't. But the moon isn't in a constant orbit. It's just in a very distant one that was started optimally so the decay is insignificant for the moment.
Arokha wrote:Centrifugal force has nothing to do with orbiting bodies.
Arokha wrote:"Without applying force (such as firing a rocket engine), the period and shape of the satellite's orbit won't change."
Aces wrote:Now I don't want to hear anything else about orbital mechanics unless someone actually knows what they are talking about and can provide sources to back it up. Otherwise, stop derailing the thread.
Dhaeleena wrote:In all honesty, my thoughts on the map? I dont like it, at all. It has -some- things i -like- but nothing else, i find it needlessly BIG and massive, in all honesty, i don't like it being an asteroid. The 'station' can grow in all directions, with asteroid or with space, being surrounded by space instead of rock is the same, expansion will be the same. I see all the points Nightwing made and i share them, i feel the station is too big and will just difficult interation, as -will- do having two separate common areas, Our server isnt some massive 60+ constant pop wich this map looks like with its big department, i can only imagine our average 4 medical people working on THAT medbay even 1 or 2 some shifts, and our even lower security that doesnt even exists some rounds.I feel like i couldn't call the station a station anymore but i should call it Colony or Base with that map. I feel and i can visualize a lot of changes that could be done, things could be put closer together a lot more and rearranged without the need of taking away place for expansion, pretty much all departments on this map have walls or something that goes directly into space or the rock...anyways. My point is, in short, Map: Too big, Needlessly big in most aspects, not good for interaction and our pop size.
Dhaeleena wrote:Most scenes doesnt happens in the bar, they START in the bar, the bar is one of the more inportant places in station, is where you go when you are any kind of civialian personnel, is the point of reunion of everyone and is were you go to see WHO is active and who you might be able to scene with, if i have to wander through giant ass hallways, giant ass departments and more than one common area to just find 1 possible scene partner that might not even fit me im going to get crazy. In other case, i really Dont like the place being on an asteroid, i dont know why we cant just remove the asteroid and leave space, it wouldnt change much at all.
Nightwing wrote:TL;DR It'd be way more expensive for Nanotrasen to perform such an arbitrary task when they've already got successful research satellites. Mass isn't a problem in centripetal motion directly, but accelerating a larger mass is, and the larger mass would pull the station out of orbit and require it to be boosted back more frequently, which are also very expensive tasks.