Aces wrote:
We did have a discussion over that, and the consensus with admins was it should be "Automatically clone unless you have blatant evidence that the person committed suicide. Someone has to witness the act, find a suicide letter, etc. Just because someone beat themselves to death with a crowbar according to autopsy doesn't mean they did it on purpose. (Might just be some dolt not knowing the game mechanics. You should probably Admin PM.)"
There should absolutely be a part of SOP regarding suicides.
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I have mixed feelings of this. If they refused to be sedated, you can just inform them that you cannot perform the treatment safely and not do surgery at all. But I prefer there still being an option. If someone wants to die of their own stupidity that's their prerogative.
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It's probably worth adding some basics. "Emergency Medical Technicians should be equipped with X, Y, Z." That's about it. Normal doctors have everything they need in the medbay. Maybe also talk about what to do in certain emergencies like a phoron spill. I wrote up a whole guide for that.
Yes. [In response to the bit about adding a bit of the Hippocratic oath into SOP]
Okay! So we've got a "Definitely." on the bit regarding how to handle suicides, which is already in there but I think it should be polished a bit to better fit this server. Or at the least, it needs to be well-known, because I've seen more than one case of
Security: Clone them. Medical: I can't, it was a suicide. Security: Clone them or I arrest you.As for treating patients without painkillers... I'd personally have it like this. Broken hand or foot? Sure, I could see someone doing a surgery on an awake, un-numbed patient. Fractured ribs? That'd call for moving around their internal bits, at the very least a painkiller would be needed. Brain surgery? I don't think anyone would want to be awake for that. Strongly, strongly advise full-blown anesthesia. And I'd agree, giving the CMO the authority to over-ride the patient's decision would be stretching it, it's likely just a slight bit of bias on my end, because I've seen many people in SS13 walk out of Medbay with a ruptured lung because stupid reason. Takes literally like 30 seconds to fix via peridaxon, no reason to NOT have it fixed, y'know?
For adding basic instructions for workers, I've actually already written up a lil' guide that I give to people who are new to Medical. It goes over the damage types, what to use for each damage type, explains why KeloDerm > Dermaline, tells you how to fix organ damage and all that, lots of handy stuff. I even put in a step-by-step Chemistry guide that, instead of saying "1 part dylovene 1 part inaprovaline" it lists each step. I've found it's easier to follow that way. It ALSO includes what I, personally, see as the optimal medical load-out for Bay-code servers... I think it's a bit 'advanced' for EMT's and Nurse's maybe, but it'd likely be helpful for MD's. It'd allow them to treat pretty much everything except for fractures and internal bleeding right there, on-site. The drawback is, it relies HEAVILY on Chemistry. You HAVE to have a good Chemist for the good chems, which is why I added the guide, and I've also spent quite a bit of time teaching people Chemistry in-game. So many people underestimate how OP Chemistry is, and it doesn't take twenty minutes to get a kickass load-out in the chem vendor.... Anyways, I can send it to you in a PM if you want to give it a look-over, pick and choose what you want included I guess.
And lastly, for the Hippocratic Oath... Even Chakat Tempest doesn't follow it COMPLETELY, mostly due in part by the fact that shi'd administer euthanasia in some circumstances, to end suffering. And of course, we couldn't have the strict "Don't kill at all, ever." bit in there because... well, vore/digestion is a thing. But we CAN have the concept of "Don't refuse to heal anyone, even criminals." We MAY have to cherry-pick a bit (as much as I hate it) so it better fits the server.
Also, I just want to put this out there... When you see me saying "I like to use ____ personally, so that's what I'm advising YOU use as well.", that isn't me saying "Be like me, assimilate! ASSIMILATE!". It's just that I've found that this particular idea or way of doing things works excellently for me. Emphasis on this when it comes to medical load-outs. So don't worry, I'm not trying to force everyone through the same cookie-cutter here, I'm just showing you the cookie-cutters that make my favorite cookies, use them if you want, ignore it if you don't.